Double wings of vibration science fiction and philosophy 丨 science fiction

Author:Art newspaper Time:2022.08.27

Dialogue

Jiang Yuqin: Professor of the School of Humanities of Shenzhen University, mainly engaged in post -human theory and science fiction literature research

Huang Qiuyan: Doctor of Literature and Art from Shenzhen University, mainly engaged in science fiction novels and physical aesthetics research

Both wings: contemporary emerging science fiction authors, masterpieces "The Roy Prince", "Scholars", "Smart Mask"

Qiu Qiufeng: Undergraduate of Chinese Language and Literature of Shenzhen University

Create science fiction works like academic topics

Qiu Qiufeng: Science fiction critic Dako Suwen interpreted the characteristics of science fiction as "cognitive strangeness" in the 1970s. Science Fiction is interpreted as Speculaatic Fiction, which greatly expands the content and expression of the content of science fiction. However, the scope of the novel is larger, including the category of novel categories based on the principles such as science fiction, magic, fantasy, and detective. What do you think of the "pushing" factor in science fiction novels? Do you have your own understanding and definition of science fiction?

Both wings: I agree with the concept of "pushing". Think of the novel emphasizing the process of interpretation. In the interpretation, to build a world, so science fiction is a category of pushing novels. It is just that the novels are not necessarily the core of the novels, and social interpretation is also considered. For example, "The Story of Girls" is closer to the novel. It interprets a technical degraded world in a sense, but the focus is not technology. Most of the science fiction novels have a interpretation of technology, but pushing novels may not write technology and future imagination. Therefore, I think that interpreted novels can be put in the category of "pushing novels". It is considered that it can be regarded as a kind of artistic aesthetics that presents fictional logic. Science fiction is one of them.

Science fiction has become important at the moment, because our lives have penetrated too much technology, so as long as it is fictional imagination, it is difficult to remove technology unless writing about past historical novels. As long as the current story is written, it is inevitable to deduce and reflect on technology, but it cannot be regarded as a established fact. In my opinion, it is unlikely that humans are out of technology interpretation to write, and science fiction will become a more unprecedented way of writing. In this sense, I think science fiction will become more and more important.

However, science fiction will not be limited to previous types of literary logic. First, because the previous type of literature described the technology and society earlier. Second, although the technical details of the Golden Age or Sina, the technical details are not so rich and realistic. Now our lives are full of complex technical details and technical phenomena, and the imagination of this complex technical details has become more sci -fi. This class will penetrate into other art and literature writing, causing other art creation to have more or less science fiction factors. So I think these works, although not necessarily science fiction, are also worth discussing, because it covers the logic of science and science fiction. Therefore, although science fiction may no longer be so clear in the type, the coverage will be wider.

Huang Qiuyan: You can see a strong philosophical and speculative temperament in your science fiction novels, and many stories also mean ideological experiments. This should be related to your learning and growth experience. Your masterpiece is philosophy, and now you have grown into young teachers who have been trained by European philosophy. At the same time, you are also a new science fiction author. What does college -style learning and research training have a role in science fiction creation?

Both wings: I actually pass the science fiction entry philosophy. I have been buying "Science Fiction World" in middle school. I learned about Hawking through "Chao Wen Dao". "Science Fiction World" has done Hawking's topic again. I bought "Brief History of Time" and "Universe in the Fruit". Hawking distinguishes the "principle of strong people" and "the principle of weak people". For the former, for an example, when I opened my eyes, the world was born for me; when I closed my eyes, the world destroyed me. The latter is more objective. Of course, Hawking's purpose is to choose the principle. When I was a kid, I was very impressed with the principle of choosing people and felt that physics was great. Later, I learned that this was also philosophy. For me, philosophy, physics, and science fiction are pursuing the ultimate problems about the universe and human nature, but the path is different. I am not able to engage in physics research, but I still have the fortune to read philosophy and conduct science fiction writing at the same time.

I used to be inspirational writing, but now I will grasp the general direction with the experience of academic writing. For example, I think of a point. First, I have to judge whether there were science fiction writers who wrote it before. If so, then I have to guarantee that this idea must be strongly rely on contemporary technology. Even if the predecessors have written, I can write new things. Second, when writing, it is necessary to ensure that there are no major problems in technical writing. If the technology is relatively mature, I will work hard to write more clearly, read the cutting -edge scientific articles, and understand the positioning and interpretation methods of specific disciplines. Through reading cutting -edge literature, I can understand which questions are doing less people, or there is nothing in the direction of the direction, and I can write it down in a novel. The writing of science fiction is similar to academic writing, especially in the aspect of finding and expressing the problem of problems. However, academic writing is a more mature problem, and there must be a relatively complete conclusion; but the creation of science fiction novels can face a type of "new life" problem. When we find that an idea is not enough to constitute a paper, we can write a novel.

Consciously put philosophical concepts into science fiction

Jiang Yuqin: Your masterpiece "Spiritual Sampling" is the thinking and reconstruction of Descartes' problem. Descartes explained the importance of "thinking" to human existence in "Thinking", and the philosophical concept of "I think I am there" has consolidated the binary view of physical and mental binary since Plato. "Spirit Sampling" reflects your serious thinking about "body and spirit". You think that the spirit must be derived from the body, and the spiritual core must have a personal understanding of the world. However, the human spirit is like a variety of folds, and the overlapping entanglement, rise and decline is a layer of ripple -like shock. It is a mixture that cannot be distinguished by the physical, spiritual, and world. What you pursue seems to be connected with the universe, endless, and symbiosis with all things. It is the understanding and re -construction of the true meaning of the world after thousands of sails. Wings: In real life, facing the world with two points in the world, it is more convenient and secure, but this also creates numbness of individuals and society. Atomic people, atomic power coordination, atomic capital and sales flow can cause individual numbness. The "spiritual slicing" in the novel should expand human perception and vision, but it is completely in the opposite direction. People seem to experience countless things, but they do not touch the spiritual core at all. Chen Geng, as a sampling person, is more typical. Fortunately, he has some desire, and later wanted to understand. Instead, Leila and Nicholas have been pursuing their dreams. Leila's direction is close to the "body", so through the technical connection, it has created an artificial intelligence Jim with a certain spiritual core. Jim reflected through material construction and obtained a human heart. Chen Ge's process of retrospecting himself is similar to Jim, so to some extent, they also originated from Leila and reached a consensus. Nicholas is more mental. His direction is close to the "heart", and he finally pursues through projection and obtains the soul of the universe. This is the other side where Chen Gan was temporarily unable to reach. In other words, at the material level, we have always been in the symbiotic state of all things, but how to jump out of the "body and mind" from the spiritual level, and respond to the symbiosis of all things again. This is the boundary that cannot cross the spiritual sampling.

When I wrote "Smart Sample", I was writing a master's dissertation and began to consciously put the philosophy into science fiction. Delurto was inspired by Spearza and Leibniz. He got from Spearza and was the former subject of "centralization in a sense". A former subject's emotion or state is "a slice of consciousness" I wrote. It is generated and does not necessarily be within the control of the subject. The former main body is a compatible fragments before the generation of subject consciousness. There can be a complex relationship between these fragments, which may determine many directions of consciousness with a potential logic. Another source of spiritual slices is Freud's trauma theory. Self -consciousness is always incomplete, and the "mind and mind" of "body and mind" is not reliable. I am indeed differently inspired and simplified them, fictional "spiritual slices".

Baroque or New Baroque is the concept I borrowed directly. Leibniz is also known as the Baroque philosopher. He was influenced by the scientific revolution. Before and after the Scientific Revolution, philosophers such as Descartes, Spearosa, Leibniz, etc. have done cutting -edge scientific and academic research, such as Descartes' analysis geometry, Pascar's fluid mechanics, Leibniz calculus. They will also consciously use mathematical tools to demonstrate philosophy and theology. Prior to them, the logic of mathematics and physics was used in the theological argument, which was illegal. However, before and after the scientific revolution, philosophy and science are being misappropriated by a category of eccentricity methodology. So the expression of mathematics has become independent. This relatively independent expression brings an infinite infiniteness as the previous understanding of "God". For the first time, everyone saw a empty, founded, absolute universe -Baroque universe behind nature or behind theology. Scholars have also found that they can express their true infiniteness through mathematics. Leibniz's calculus is to depict the limit and use mathematical logic to draw the limit on how the limit is dynamically generated. He began to demonstrate different styles of different styles and different forms according to the individual limited tools.

Although for scholars such as Leibniz, the infiniteness they demonstrated is still to prove the infinite of God, but the results make humans doubt about ancient God. Another example is the comparison between Newton and Leibniz, and the calculus logic they created is different. Newton uses the logic of classic physics to prove a static, absolute time and space infinite; Leibnitz uses a modern, Baroque infinite logic to prove the infiniteness of a relative time and space. In other words, at that time, different people and scholars were different about infinite understanding. In their respective, inevitable, and limited state of people, we can see different infinite nature. Multiple, even irrelevant and contradictory infiniteness can coexist, which is very interesting, which is also the Baroque world I understand.

In real life or novel art, for the first time, according to their limited nature, they realize that some infiniteness, the sense of sacredness and lofty sense, or the feeling of small and despair are worth remembering. These cores formed the "soul", and everyone has different "souls" core, so that human beings may achieve the symbiosis of all things with physical and mental integration. In other words, after knowing the infiniteness, the hard and complexity of the individual kernel can obtain some kind of confirmation. Therefore, of the three protagonists of "Spiritual Sampling", Nicholas is a person who has a better understanding of his own hardship. He knows what "infinite and limited" is. Chen Gan is a relatively fragmented person. Although he experienced unlimited life through spiritual sampling, he did not really have a cognitive concept of "his own limitedness and infiniteness", so he is a relatively negative role Essence Teacher Song Mingwei's research involves the relationship between "Baroque" and literature and science fiction literature, and it is also inspiring to my recent writing. Baroque philosophy or aesthetic construction unlimited, nested world, and rich feelings. Leibniz has opened up modern mathematics in a sense (without calculus without the modern world). Human beings have a way to re -understand the world and obtain a complicated expression system. Used in science fiction, Baroque's expression will show the rich direction of science and art. Contemporary science fiction is also continuing Leibnitz's "infinite and limited", showing the re -understanding of Leibniz: how do we use Baroque's "infinite" to express the world. I understand that Baroque's infinity is still a grand narrative involved in a certain meaning. However, it requires a diverse, profound, systematic narrative, which can be generated at the same time, relationships, and nested together. In this case, it can not only resist the single homogeneity and the problem of fragmented, and it can also undertake a complex system including science, technology, human nature, and world. This true diversity requires more Voloque art and Baroque mathematics expression.

Huang Qiuyan: Similarly, in "The Prince of the Rooster", you consciously tell the problem of the most cutting -edge human -machine relationship in a fairy tale way. You pull the relationship between human -computer to the coexistence of people and the environment/community, emphasize the coexistence of human subjects and the environment, and specifically elaborate the significance of the human community from a psychological and religious perspective. The most creative thing in "The Rooster Prince" is that you use the four laws of the Four -Boo Animals, or the three laws of Chinese moral culture against robots, trying to establish a new human -machine moral ethics. Does it mean that China's ethics and morality can also be a path for future human -machine ethics development?

Wings: There is an important reason to write "The Roy Prince", which is to talk about communication. In my ideas, although the four -best animals are not self -conscious enough, their communication has brought strong civilization. I hope to express that in civilization and barbaric, communication has brought a real stability and the development of civilization.

The communication between people has the first person, the third person, and the second person. The first person is easy to fall into a narcissistic and self -centered trap. The third person is easy to be objective to others and the world, resulting in numbness. The second person, that is, the expression between people through "you" should be more real and closer. The second person brings convergence, perception of the world around the world, and a true understanding of my self -reflection and a true understanding of others. Paul's cure should be achieved through the second person. I did not write this point, which also caused the confusion caused by "The Rooster Prince" to readers.

In the logic of the second person, looking at the "three laws" and "four do not", I feel that the distinction between moral legislation and moral raising is still feasible. The "Three Laws" of the slavery logic is very strong. It is the idea of human beings to restrict the third person by the first person. Although it depicts human -machine relationships, its source comes from human slavery from humans. Asimov's human care is to reflect on the law, not to recognize the narcissism of humans. "Four Do not" is actually a constraint on the third person as the first person. At this level, China's "benevolence" and "ritual" may not be better than Western. Compared with the "four -not" and "three laws", the logical relationship between the "Four Best" is not interpreted or judged, but an enumeration. Through the continuous enumeration of specific events and cases to form dynamic moral laws or social order, this should be a more ideal state of modern civilization. This layer is indeed derived from the more secular level of Confucianism.

What I admire is actually "cautious", that is, some kind of self -reflection and self -restraint. When we talk about artificial intelligence, we always use whether it can generate self -awareness as a benchmark. But the social vicious incident in the past one or two years shows that humans with full self -awareness can also make many cruel events. So self -awareness does not necessarily represent intelligence. Self -reflection and self -introspection may be the intelligence needed by a civilized society. How to reflect from individual self -reflection and transition to the group's self -reflection is a question I want to explore in subsequent novels. The communication between the four -do animal in "The Rooster Prince" is still in a very immature stage of thinking.

Embracing technology, trusting life's passion

Jiang Yuqin: "Cyborg" originated from American scientists Cleanner and Klein's thesis title and specific explanation at the 1960 Space Medical Symposium. They pointed out that Suberg is "a mix of machines and organic bodies." This concept became a cultural metaphor and even discourse reconstruction through the discussion of socialist femaleist critic Hallavi in the 1980s. After entering contemporary pop culture, "Siboge" became the interpretation object and technical imagination in popular film and television works. The intervention of contemporary technology and the enhancement of human bodies have become aware of the "we are all Subra". Therefore, Siboger crosses the border between mechanical and physical and breaking culture -natural, subject -object boundaries, and has become the core of science and technology, humanistic interdisciplinary discussions. Return to Suberg as a life form. Do you think that the integration of people and technology is likely to reach a very ideal state of life? Both wings: One is that related technologies are not mature enough, and the other is that the implantation of Seberg's prosthetic limbs is reconciled with individuals. It requires a lot of time costs, and everything will not work quickly. Suberg is not only electronic Cyberg, but also involves the development of "prosthetic limbs". This strongly depends on individual adaptability and medical treatment for individual specificity. In other words, there is a prerequisite for Suberg, that is, it is "specialized" and cannot be "universal". Modern civilization is an industrial civilization that is universal, and has not yet developed an individualization of industrial civilization. Therefore, in terms of medical technology, it is difficult to achieve "specialization" and "individualization". If it can be achieved, I think the ideal Suber's life may be realized.

At present, for example, for some cancer treatment, medicine can extract genetic information, renovate new immune cells according to the patient's situation, and cultivate new immune cells to achieve relatively effective cure. Although it is expensive, it is indeed very individual. In this case, Suberg can cross organic and inorganic. Of course, there is another kind of Suberg, which is related to different people's natural adaptability, that is, to what extent we can connect to different use equipment. The exoskeleton equipment of the elderly in some countries is relatively mature. In the future, non -planted and external equipment is also a direction of Suberg. At this time, what we need to pay attention to is the problem of use capabilities, and we can see how strong the human adaptability is.

Qiu Qiufeng: In your novel, he talked about faith to determine human issues. What is your belief in life? What do you think should be human's pursuit of freedom of life?

Both wings: I think the art of science fiction or broad sense involves belief in life itself. For example, the Vatican Voice Speaking explanation of the Vatican voice commentary on Michelangelo's "Last Trial". It said that in the picture of "The Last Trial", one person was carrying a human -like thing, and the human skin was Michelangelo himself. Michelangelo's life is relatively turbulent and depressed. He transformed his understanding and projection as a human skin in the final trial. But in the "Last Trial", everyone shows a strong sense of physical strength, which is the beauty of life. The body in Michelangelo sculpture and painting is actually not fully in line with anatomical structure, which is the strong feature of his shape. Through the distortion of the flesh, he created a pure vitality and sense of strength, showing his artistic belief or the vitality of art, which can bring belief in the vitality itself. Many artists live very depressed throughout their lives, but these most moving art works have the color and strength of believing life. The flashes of the inner life allowed art to retain. So I think it is worth following them to believe in life itself. This is some inspiration given to me by art.