"Want to be a star, don't come to the art" 丨 Face face to face

Author:Phoenix Television Time:2022.07.01

Beijing Renyi 70th Anniversary Special

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Want to be a star, don't come to artwork

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Talk to the Beijing People's Art Theater

In June 2022, the 70th anniversary of the Beijing Renreni was celebrated, and the classic drafts were guided and released for 9 consecutive days. On the night of the celebration of the art Academy on June 12, the drama "Tea House" lived online and offline, and tens of millions of people watched the classics together. It is difficult to imagine that for a theater that can only sit down 1,000 people in each performance, how many games and how many years can be performed to achieve such a grand occasion. Since the epidemic, the theater has faced an unknown risk of performance stop every day. The live broadcast of the 70th anniversary of Beijing Renyi may be the helpless move of the epidemic, but it is also in a positive way to allow the audience to see the drama and feel the drama during the days when they cannot enter the theater.

△ Drama "Tea House" live broadcast

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In 2017, the TV series "The Name of the People" was hit, and the secretary of Da Kang played by Wu Gang became popular. That year, the People's Art Institute showed "Tea House", many viewers came for "Internet celebrity" Dakang. When Secretary Dakang's emoticon package brushed the screen social network, few people knew that the actor Wu Gang had performed more than 30 years of drama on the art stage. In 2001, Feng Yuanzheng starred in the domestic violence theme TV series "Don't Talk to Strangers", and the name "An Jiahe" also became the "childhood shadow" of a generation. Yang Lixin's highlights came earlier. In 1993, 36 -year -old Yang Lixin took the filming "I Love My Home", starred in the role of Jia Zhiguo, and became popular all over the country. To this day, the paragraphs of "I Love My Home" are often active in our circle of friends.

Tian Chuan: What is the charm of art and drama? Every drama actor who has experienced TV series, movies, and fame and fortune is willing to return to this stage. Yang Lixin: Not as tall as you said, human beings are my work unit. As an actor in Beijing, you must perform a drama because you are the person in this unit. I have been the captain of the actor team for 15 years. In the past, the income of the drama was too low, the salary was not high, and the performance fee was not high. When not performing a drama, actors often have free time for one to three months. A good drama actor will also receive many invitations to film and television shooting, so as the captain of the actor team, it is important to balance the relationship between the actor stage and film and television shooting. There is a saying in Song Dandan that a drama actor can work in Beijing for a lifetime, which is a very happy thing. It is different from any other case, and everyone is unwilling to leave. Tian Chuan: Where does that happiness come from? Yang Lixin: It is not a sense of happiness, but a sense of honor. It is important to create an image recognized by an internal layman on the stage of human arts.

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There have been many slogans in the rehearsal hall of Beijing Renyi. Compared with the "drama is bigger than the sky" that people often say, Yang Lixin appreciates the phrase on the banner of the rehearsal field on the first floor of the 1980s, "to enrich the world The Treasure Treasure of the Drama and strives for hard work. "

Feng Yuanzheng: The film and television industry has huge market potential, but drama is not an industry where fame and fortune can be harvested. It is the pagoda of art. In foreign countries, making a star can earn hundreds of millions of or more assets, but a good drama man is always poverty. What supports him? It is his spirit, his pursuit of art. I asked many young children why they wanted to take artwork. Some said that this is the temple. I did nothing, so I came to the art to perform. I said you do n’t say this. After two years of coming, you do n’t say that, because you need to stay, you may want to buy a car, get dressed, and get a brand bag ... If you want to be a star, then you do n’t want to come. Want to be a good actor, or even an artist, then you come to art. How to guide young actors is very important, to talk about teaching. I told young actors that if you are not allowed to play with your mobile phone in my rehearsal hall, you will go out if you want to play. Why is there such a request? Because I hope you are seriously depending on everyone's rehearsal. Tian Chuan: I heard that when there was a row of "confidant", you were kneeling on the ground to play a single crying scene, but there was a young actor beside him playing with mobile phones. You scolded them on the spot. Later, when they saw you again, they started to go around Go away. Feng Yuanzheng: Because I was scolded by Mr. Zheng Rong before. When we were still in the student class, we lined up "The Father and Son of the Emperor Qin", and we were responsible for running the dragon suit. Because of the excitement of just entering the art, everyone was chatting behind the scene, the more they said. Teacher Zheng Rong was acting in front, and suddenly he heard him say, "Whoever speaks behind, roll out." In the rehearsal hall, if you told Teacher Zheng Rong, he would look at you, and then said that it was to be with this. Does the drama have something to do? It doesn't matter what do you say it does? In the past, after entering the rehearsal hall of the art, all languages ​​must be related to drama. If it is not related, it cannot be said. This is Beijing Renyi. So when I scolded young actors, I felt that history may be like this. When you reach you, you can't tolerate it.

△ Zheng Rong (left) and Yang Lixin (right)

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In the 1980s, Beijing Renyi ranked a new drama for half a year. But the good times did not last long. After the 1990s, the film and TV drama industry flourished. The actor has become a well -known and fame and fortune star with the Dongfeng of the TV series. On the stage of the art stage, only 150 yuan of salary was obtained a month, and he had to bear the loneliness to run the dragon on the stage the year and year after the year. Wu Gang: In Beijing, you can quietly open the door of the rehearsal hall to study at any time. There must be no rehearsal on the first floor. We used to live on the fourth floor before and did not leave the theater at night. The taste in the corridor and the taste of the rehearsal hall are all spiritual.

There should be less than 1,000 audience seats in Renyi Theater, and 1100 are in the beginning. Why do we still retain the theater performance? This is the charm of the stage. Actors and audiences can interact directly, complete the role together, and complete this play. It is completely different in the performance in front of the camera. The front line of the camera is wrong, or I feel that it is not right, I can come back, I can shoot 10 times or 20 times. But after the stage opened the scene, it started to play really. You can't make any mistakes. You have to be worthy of spending money to buy tickets.

Tian Chuan: Because of the Secretary of Dakang in the Name of the People, you are almost known by everyone in China, but few people know that you have been performing a drama for 30 years before. Will you feel lost? Wu Gang: I don't think I don't have the day when I have not been rehearsed in the theater these years. Just like the monks in the martial arts, after practicing in the mountains for a long time, he had to go down the mountain to fight. After finishing his hand, he knew where he was lacking, and then returned to the mountain to continue practicing.

△ The drama "Bad" Wu Gang (left) is decorated with Greenwood

Wu Gang: I go back to the theater to perform every year, not only to complete the task, but also a destination in my heart. Everyone may have n’t seen it for half a year. My brother still wants to think about it. In the process of rehearsing together, many things are tacitly tacit. Everyone is not only a colleague in so many years. The most important thing is that we are a family, and the family work together. It is different. Tian Chuan: What kind of charm I am curious about human art, can a group of classmates, a group of colleagues, finally become family members? Wu Gang: When he first arrived, Mr. Lin Liankun told all the classmates in the class that the stage of the drama was not a place to make a lot of money. If you want to make a lot of money, you can go quickly. Why do we all stick here, because we know what we are going to do here. We have to act and play a good show. According to the lines in "Tea House", we are a lifetime friendship. So something happened at home, I must go home, this is the rules of the theater for many years. If the outside shooting and the performance of the theater could not be opened, I would rather be yellow outside. Don't go, why? Because there is something at home.

△ Blackboard in Beijing Renyi Backstage

Tian Chuan: There is a blackboard in the backstage of Renyi, which says each performance and performance time. How do you feel every time you see it? Wu Gang: That's my job, my task, one after each performance. There is also a function of this blackboard. If there is an accident in the performance today, it is necessary to put the written inspection on the blackboard, which is a warning to all actors. Tian Chuan: Have you written? Wu Gang: I wrote it, I didn't remember it clearly, it should be a misunderstanding when I played "Beijingers". Tian Chuan: So do you have to write a check? Wu Gang: It is necessary, this is the rules. I think we feel that each performance is different. Personally, I do fine -tuning every day. The feeling on the stage today is good. Tomorrow may be gone, you have to look for it again, and you will always maintain a sense of freshness. Whether it is 100 games, 300 games, and 500 games, it is like playing the first game. Tian Chuan: This freshness is also a pillar given to himself. Wu Gang: Yes, the gentlemen do this.

The stage is a place to create miracles, and the audience comes for miracles

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In the past 70 years of Beijing Renren and Art Construction Academy, a total of six student classes have been trained, and they are still active in the entertainment industry. There are Li Guangfu in 1960, Yang Lixin in grade 1975, Liang Guanhua, Song Dandan, Wang Ji, etc. in 1981, and Wang Ji, etc. The sixth level 1985 "Five Tigers", Feng Yuanzheng and Wu Gang are members of the "Five Tigers". They touched the arts and felt the words of the gentlemen from close range. Today, the responsibility of cultivating new successors has also fallen on them.

△ 1985 Grade Arts Performance Student Class

Feng Yuanzheng: Around 2013, I suddenly said that Xi Cunxin was going to retire. Yang Lixin was going to retreat in two years. Suddenly, there was a feeling that it was my turn. In the past, I felt that the Beijing people had collapsed, the older generation was facing, the ground was trapped, and there were little ones, how comfortable the generation in our generation. As a result, I suddenly said that you should be up to this day and find that you have a responsibility. When I was only an actor, I didn't ignore anything every day. But when I started to manage the theater, I found that the young actors who had just entered the theater now are blank. They are at a loss, they have no backbone. When we are a student, our teachers Lin Liankun and Tong Di will take us to the rehearsal hall to introduce who this is who is the student class. As soon as I introduce, others will say that this is Teacher Lin's students. Students ... Students will feel the Lord. Tian Chuan: So you later decided to adopt one -to -one format to let the seniors bring their generations. Feng Yuanzheng: It ’s the old belt. For example, if you are new, I will find a teacher for you, you will follow him, he will teach you the rules of art. Even the old artist can introduce him with a young actor, who is this person, which teacher is this ... telling you that this is my student, so that young actors have a feeling that he has been taken care of but at the same time. △ 1985 Grade Arts Performance Student Class

Feng Yuanzheng: At that time, the leader told me to hope that I would manage the actor team, so I would say okay. After taking over, I found a lot of problems that I didn't realize before, such as the actors did not come back. The reason for many actors is that the brokerage company has arranged the shooting plan behind me. When I entered the rehearsal hall at that time, I could have one -third, or even half of the actors. I did n’t know it. They were all hired because many actors did not come back to rehearsal. I was angry, but at that time I could only scold the street and say that people's art has fallen. So after taking over the actor team, I said that they must come back to rehearse. I talked hard because I filmed outside for more than 30 years. I never delayed the rehearsal of art. No one can tell how you Feng Yuanzheng before. Tian Chuan: For example, he speaks and teaches. Feng Yuanzheng: Yes, so how to inherit Beijing Renyi and how to make future young actors love human beings? Tian Chuan: Just like you say that there is a brand that is not allowed to play with mobile phones now. When will this brand take off this brand and when is it successful. Feng Yuanzheng: Yes, it shows that this matter has grown up. Tian Chuan: Do you have confidence in the new generation of actors? Feng Yuanzheng: There is confidence, whether it is the young man who runs in the drama "Tea House", or the young people in the newly lined up "Sunrise", "Thunderstorm" and "Wilderness", you can see the future of the art of art from them. They are only 24 years old and are very immature. I think I worse than them. When I told them that when people are hundreds of years, they are now us. If I am still alive, I will see you.

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This year is the last year of Feng Yuanzheng as the deputy dean of Renyi. In the past few years, he has been with students, guides, managing theater and actors. After completing the 70th anniversary of the art of art, he can retire with peace of mind.

△ 2022 version of the drama "Sunrise"

Wu Cunxin: Someone asked me yesterday's feelings for Beijing's artistic art. I said I couldn't say it, but I spent it all my life. I care about the three or five years left here. I am the same age with the theater, this is the relationship. I grew up here since I was a child. I have been to everywhere, drilled, I have passed, but I haven't stood on the stage. At the end of the educated youth, I was 24 years old, an advanced empty government drama group. At that time, the theater troupe performed by Beijing Renyi Theater. Because I wanted to move the box and install it, I moved the box to the stage of Beijing Renyi in Black Hole. Put the box on the ground, look at the stage, and feel in my heart. But I was not artistic at that time. I don't think I have a chance to perform on the stage of art. I am so envious of human actors, but I am not. I would like to perform here in the future.

△ "Thunderstorm" Xi Cunxin as Zhou Ping

Wu Cunxin: I won the first special award of Zhou Ping, because of playing Zhou Ping, the "Chunyan Cup" young actor Progress Award of Beijing Renyi. But in fact, I didn't perform well, and the old seniors had to be wide. Therefore, we must have a concept of young actors, allowing them to have a process, just play the foundation, don't care about their first round of performances, it will be perfect. Tian Chuan: When you were interpreting the role of Zhou Ping, you were imitating the acting skills of his father (Su Min) and did not create this role. Wu Cunxin: Until I could not play Zhou Ping at the age of 50, I thought I did not play this role well. In 2021, I was the director and re -arranged "Thunderstorm". In October this year, we continued to improve. What kind of Zhou Ping is he? He is not wearing a gown, handsome, the so -called bourgeois young master. He was Zhou Ping, who was indifferent all day. He only had to breathe normally when he saw Si Feng. Other times, he was like an ant on a hot pot. It was like a tree found that the eagle was going to capture its bird. His eyes were uncertain, avoiding Fan Yi, he was looking for a way out. Mr. Cao Yu's four works have a hint about him. Go out of the cage, get out of the old world, and get out of the dilemma. We hope to report to Mr. Cao Yu, the spirit of heaven.

△ Xun Cunxin lined the drama "Thunderstorm" for the students

Tian Chuan: Do you say that you are not satisfied with your past performance, do you think you have reached your highlight moment at this moment? Wu Cunxin: This is a very tangled mood. I have done the actor for a lifetime. What level is my? To retire, what can I do for young people in the time left without much time? I suddenly thought of a cross. In the vertical direction, did you compare with the teacher and old predecessors? Horizontal, what is your comparison with your peers in the world? Where can you go to the grid at a vertical and horizontal cross point? Tian Chuan: If you are really on the day you want to leave the stage, what do you feel like to feel? Xi Cunxin: It is not expected. Teacher Tianye had just died, and everyone was missing him and praised him, but I really didn't have too much pain. Two months before he died, I went to see him and shaved his head. I think everyone will experience this. If you can leave like him, who can be better than him. Unknown tomorrow, unknown next year. Life must be in line, and you must experience it slowly. The drama next year is already prepared, and we look forward to the miracle. The stage is a place to create miracles, and the audience comes from miracles. Wu Gang: Teacher Lan Tianye is still standing on the stage at the age of 90. The biggest feature of this profession is that it has countless lives that allow the audience to remember you in your heart. Then there is no retirement in this profession, unless you can't perform. Yang Lixin: No one will tell you that you will never come to power since today, there will always be new characters and new performances. Tian Chuan: Let each audience look forward to unlimited expectations. Yang Lixin: Yes.

(Some pictures are from the Internet)

Director: Li Yan

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