Liang Xiaosheng: My last minister article should write "Four Generations" | Read+

Author:Changjiang Daily Time:2022.07.19

Thousands of Lights in Mo Li Moshi

The Zhou Bingkun family, which focuses on the world, is an extremely common ordinary family in my country. Unlike some works, at the same time, most Chinese people are aimed at Jinyi Jade Food House and Landlord Giants. Most of the Chinese are like Zhou Bingkun's family. They do not have unrealistic extravagance, nor a particularly deep culture, just want to live a good life. Although they may be poor and shabby, there are many difficulties in their lives, and they have repeatedly bumped in the society. They still have not lost their pursuit of good things, abide by the moral bottom line, and do not harm others. Facing the choice of morality and interests, the choice of conscience and money, they can withstand the test and grievance themselves to become others.

Liang Xiaosheng's works do not deliberately pursue formal innovation, not enthusiastic about playing with text skills, and not going to follow the waves. The fascinating of his works is not a strange theme. He has always persisted in adhering to the realistic style. Whether it is the early "Snow City" and "New Year" or the recent "The World", the basics are basically in the ordinary alleys Mo. Wanjia lights are written by the ordinary people's life around us. His works have little emperors, talented and talented, rarely distorted human nature, miracle encounters, and even the storyline cannot be regarded as strange tortuous.

But it is precisely in ordinary people in ordinary people. In the ordinary life of ordinary people, Liang Xiaosheng opened a brilliant and magical literary cave. (Liu Gonghu)

Liang Xiaosheng and his "Liang Xiaosheng's Collection", which had not yet been out.

At the beginning of 2022, the hit TV series "The World" re -pulled a "old" writer Liang Xiaosheng, who was cultivated in the literary world for 50 years, to the public's vision. Since the first literary works were published in 1972, Liang Xiaosheng has been working hard, and the creative content has been widely involved. Various genres have widely known masterpieces. Not only did it create a precedent of educated youth literature, but also in 2019 with the original novels of "The World" novels in 2019. Won the 10th Mao Dun Literature Award.

Last week, Liang Xiaosheng accepted an exclusive interview with the Yangtze River Daily.

"You can read the lofty from Liang Xiaosheng's works"

In 1949, Liang Xiaosheng was born in Harbin. At the age of 19, he became an educated youth of the Heilongjiang Production and Construction Corps. At the age of 25, he was recommended to go to college and became a student of the Chinese Department of Fudan University. After graduating from college, he was assigned to the editor of the Beijing Film Studio. He was transferred to the deputy director of the Art Committee of the Chinese Children's Film Studio at the end of 1988, and then was transferred to the Professor of the School of Humanities of Beijing Language University in 2002 until he retired. These experiences provided Liang Xiaosheng with a steady stream of creative inspiration.

Most of Liang Xiaosheng's works reflect the daily life of ordinary civilians, and the prototypes in the works are mostly from himself, family, and friends around him. He once said that writing is a dialogue with himself. He believes that without writers can write the values ​​that they do not believe with only experience and skills, and what can be written must be expressed from the heart.

Some readers say that from Liang Xiaosheng's works, it is rare to read the lofty work today. And this rare is because Liang Xiaosheng's literary creative concept: "Why do humans need literature? The value of literature is that it can give people spiritual nourishment. In the final analysis, humans need literature, or it promotes us to improve spirit and character. Improve again. It is precisely because of this reason that literature has a relationship with humans, and it has a good power. "He always has a sense of awe of literature and firmly believes that" literary works must guide people to be good people. " He is trying his best to pay tribute to realism, and through the characters from different levels of his writing, to convey his perception and vision of society.

"No matter what extent the industry is rich and to what extent the opportunities, each of us can do something well, and there will be a few kinds of things. Sometimes, just one kind." With this firm and persistent belief, with a sober and calm attitude, Liang Xiaosheng has played his director to the extreme in the past 50 years, creating more than 20 million words of literary works, publishing nearly 100 books.

In Liang Xiaosheng's view, the value of life lies in doing things that are most suitable for you. In his era of writing in the past 50 years, his work has shown the eternal pursuit of true, good, and beautiful. In the fireworks on earth, it shows morality and responsibility;

In "The Collection of Liang Xiaosheng's Works", you can see both the masterpieces reflected in the educated youth life "Snow City" and "Back to the City", but also the masterpiece of the mother and son's deep love and the deep love of Chinese -style father and son "Mother", "Father" ; "Fireworks on the Earth", which is not only the toughness of human nature, tells everyone how to live a good life of "The Truth of Life", and there are also "Sadness and Floating Life" that has calmly watched their lives after the world. The old and happy "We Love Love", as well as the "Vulgar Flavor" of life and laughter, and the "Live" who still loves life after recognizing the truth of life; Open the inner folds of life and feel the toughness of life. From the "Dialogue with the Soul", how he places his tired soul, and reconcile with destiny ... All these are Liang Xiaosheng's deepening of Liang Xiaosheng to society, to the world, and life to life. Think about life, life, and love for the people.

"No one in the world dares to declare that he has never said that he has never said"

In 1986, the reporter read Liang Xiaosheng's self -described prose "Jinghua News" in the "Chinese Writer" magazine, which was very impressed with several of them.

One of the stories, occurred at a literary symposium in Shanghai. Participants had writers such as Bajin and Ru Zhijuan. The Chinese Department of Fudan University sent a teacher and two students to participate. Liang Xiaosheng is one of the students and serves as a recorder.

One day, a representative said in his speech, "Like" Lily ", the thoughts are unhealthy after all ..."

Liang Xiaosheng was annoyed. He loved Lily Flower in middle school. So when I continued to discuss in the afternoon, "I sent a word fiercely ..." After he spoke, everyone was silent for a long time. No one supports, and no one is opposed. Everyone continues to speak, all have nothing to do with this topic.

Then I opened for another day and a half, and Ru Zhijuan did not speak to him. After the meeting, she gave Liang Xiaosheng a page with the address of her house, and asked Liang Xiaosheng to go to her house to play. Liang Xiaosheng later visited Ru Zhijuan's house twice, and also met Ru Zhijuan's daughter Wang Anyi. Later, Ru Zhijuan told Liang Xiaosheng: "" Shanghai Literature "is about to recover. After you graduate, if you want to stay in Shanghai, I can fight for you." Liang Xiaosheng said, "I am a northerner, I still want to return to Harbin. Living between Shanghai people often feel lonely. "

The second of the story, in the spring of 1979, the fourth National Higher Education Conference was held in Beijing Xiyuan. Representatives of various news and literary and artistic units attended. Liang Xiaosheng, as the representative of the North Film Factory, participated in the study and discussion of the South China Group. Everyone spoke enthusiastically, and eventually came to the evaluation of "workers, peasants and soldiers". "If there was another worker, peasants and soldiers at the time, he or she might escape and did not have the courage to enter the conference room." So Liang Xiaosheng intends to enter the conference room before each meeting, "concealed" in a row of long sofa back.

On the afternoon of the third day, Liang Xiaosheng was "unfortunate" and was presided over the discussion to speak. "So the humble part of my quality shrouded my soul for a moment, prompting me to play a pitying role."

He almost said the first lie involuntarily: "I ... I am not a worker, peasants and soldiers ..." In order to make the representatives doubt, he gave himself five years old, and then said that he was the director of the Film Academy. The previous graduate was a student of a famous film director.

After the meeting, many people nodded at him. Unexpectedly, his lie was pierced that night, and his leader came to visit an old colleague in the South China group ...

The next day, Liang Xiaosheng was ten minutes late. At the entrance of the stairs on the second floor, an old man was stopped. "Don't enter the conference room first. Everyone already knows that you are a 'worker, peasants and soldiers' trainees'. Everyone is angry and is talking about you. Why do you lie? How good is it? Some representatives ask for the conference to the conference. The briefing group reports this! "

Liang Xiaosheng blushed to have a fever: "You can say a few good words for me, don't make my name a briefing!"

Older: "I have done this." Then I proposed to walk outside the building.

"We walked outside the building, and he told me how many do you should think of himself as a worker, peasants and soldiers. When he accompanied me back to the door of the conference room, I still lack enough courage to enter. He said: He said: 'No one in the world dares to declare that they have never said. Go in!' Holding my arm and entered the conference room with me. "

This old man is Wu Boxiao, an old educator.

Liang Xiaosheng wrote this story in the book.

【Interview】

Under any circumstances without losing the quality that people should have

Reading+: Teacher Liang, your writing from educated youth to social reflection works, to "good people literature", can you talk about the writing process of nearly half a century, and what do you think of realistic writing?

Liang Xiaosheng: Let's talk about the first question first.

My generation, who have experienced educated youth experience, will write to their own educated youth life, and almost every writer who has experienced educated youth experience in my peers in this generation has written great educated youth novels, then I also No exception. At the beginning, writing "This is a magical land" was due to the draft. This short story was influenced by Russian literature. The content was the pioneering experience from the beginning of the educated youth to the North Wilderness. When I wrote "There is a snowstorm tonight", I actually wrote the special night when the educated youth returned to the city. I wrote that I first went to the North Wilderness and wrote to the return to the city.

Then the reader will also have a promotion of the author's creation. Some readers -mainly readers who have experienced educated youth experience. I hope I will write another thing after returning to the city, so there is "Snow City". In fact, after the "Snow City", I think the theme of Zhiqing has been completed. However, the state of enrollment is then entered, such as "New Year" and "Educated Youth" are all schedules. "Back to the City" I want to write it myself, because the background of "Back to the City" is placed in Harbin, and it is directed by my director friend Li Wenqi. I think that I should write a work for my hometown and write this "Back to the City".

What is the "good person literature" I advocated?

The works that writers first came into contact often affected which type of work he had towards him after becoming a writer. I am more influenced by Russian literature, and I have emphasized the shaping of "newcomers" during a period of Russian literature, which has a greater impact on me. I forgot which Russian writer should be at the same time as Chelnibski. In his works, a character is shaped. This character says: a person's life, always always Try to do things that transcend personal emotions and personal life value for his country and the age he are in. The wishes they put forward were actually similar to Mr. Cai Yuanpei's desire for Peking University students. Moreover, Paul in "How is Iron and Steel", what he said (the most precious thing of a person is life, and life has only one time for us. A person's life should be spent like this: when he looks back, he looks back In the past, he did not regret it because of his declines, nor was he ashamed of inaction. In this way, he could say, "My life and all their experiences are dedicated to the most magnificent career in the world- Fighting for human liberation. " - Reading+Note) is the same as the previous Russian writer said. Therefore, such a youth image will affect my reading.

In their works, the concept of "good people literature" also came out. This "good person literature" is not what we often say "old good people". Help and strive to adhere to justice. If such quality is presented to young people, it will move readers, and I am also willing to discover this on my contemporary.

In addition, I am different from others. For some of these works, such as presented on this power field, how people are deliberately alienated for the upper position and reveal it very deeply. I have never been interested in this type of work, whether reading or writing.

Because I think that in a special period of people in special scenes, these performances are unusual things. We always feel this in real life, and we don't need to write it so much. No matter how deep it is, it is better to look back to see history and see the alienation of those in history for power. For example, "Anshi's Rebellion", first of all, An Lushan is to rebel for power; then his helper Shi Siming, for the sake of power, mobilized the son of Anlu Mountain to kill Anlu Mountain and his son killed his father; Kill, Shi's son killed his father again. This is the alienation of men; women, such as Wu Zetian, such as Lu Hou, and even Cixi, sometimes do not recognize their children, right? In history, power has been really alienated to such a degree. Then I think that in a very modern society, it doesn't make much sense to write this point. For human desires and other desires, we can rack their brains to achieve their goals. The "Gold and Silver Island", which we read in elementary school, and even Pushkin's "The Story of Fishermen and Goldfish", which simply wrote it to the extreme. So when I am not interested in these, in fact, I may be more willing to write — in the context of a changeable change, some ordinary young people still insist on being the most basic moral position on themselves on themselves. Maybe this is my view of "good people literature".

At the beginning of the popular Chinese TV family, we imported a long TV series, "Female Slave" in Brazil. Its male protagonist is a manor owner, and the heroine is a kind woman. In such a long TV series, each episode is writing that the male protagonist next episode is worse than the previous episode. Under the oppression of such a man who becomes worse, the heroine is very aggrieved The state of survival. This was the only thing I didn't watch in the imported TV series that year.

We have a lot of ancient pieces, even the actual theme, in fact, this is this content, and then turn it over and pour it in one episode one after another. Moreover, those comments on the Internet also said that it is ugly and ugly to write human nature. I think, as a person who likes literature and who likes film and television, does he have been stagnating at such an acceptance level? Then if you put this into the university, the teacher said, let's analyze literature and script works, and talk about this every day, and if the students are interesting and remembering notes, I think they are sick. I think literature and film and television are not written at all.

For example, Guogo and Moli, they are ironic theater, their irony works are not just described deeply. Shakespeare's "Venice Merchant" asked the other party to pay off the debt, but he still wrote a good person. The good person finally resolved this problem.

During the epidemic, I read the works of the United States, Britain, France, Russia, and Germany that I have read, including their works that won the Nobel Prize in Literature. In the case of shaping their nation, in any circumstances, including war -how they loses the quality of the word "people".

Therefore, this may be my concept. This concept, I have also tried to write with other creative methods. But I think that each method does not seem to be more credible as I use realistic methods. Of course, it will also bring some negatives, that is, everyone says that the characters in my pen always have the color of ideal personality. However, I look back that there is no such color in life. For example, the friendship between Zhou Bingkun and his hair, in my life, I also experienced such a year of walking around by friendship. Writing is like tailoring and shoemakers to make clothes and shoes

Reading+: Teacher Liang, you have written from the 1970s to now, and have written nearly 20 million words of works. It has maintained a strong creative momentum for nearly half a century. What is your writing motivation?

Liang Xiaosheng: Writing is a thing I love, and it may be the only thing I can do relatively satisfying myself.

I think writing is very much like a carpentry work, or an old noodle master to make noodles, and it is also very much like tailoring and shoemakers to make clothes and shoes. Even though an old tailor had decided to retire, the golden basin washed his hands, but if he looked at his tailor case, there was a fabric on his tailor case, he might often think about how to make this cloth.

In fact, I always want to end writing in a long period of time. But at the same time as this idea, there will be new materials. Just like the old shoers often come to the door, it is an appointment for our writers. Sometimes the draft is accompanied by friendship, such as the friendship with this editor; The shape impacted himself, so he felt that he couldn't rest and continued to write it.

Reading+: Now everyone has a lot of titles for you, such as "educated youth writers" and "civilian writers", and "social critics". What kind of impression do you want you to leave you?

Liang Xiaosheng: "Home" is just a title of specific occupation, and you don't have to treat it seriously. Moreover, I have recently felt that if writers, critics, and our writers, the existence of the Writers, the purpose is to push the writer and the work to a high cabinet, so that everyone Does not meet the relationship between literature in contemporary and the vast readers. Especially now, there are actually many people who can write. Although they may not be called "home", they can also pick up the pen to write their own experience and write a certain process of their own lives, but they have not written a few times. It's only ten years, right? So I think the writer is more like a profession.

But we really have to admit that it is a special occupation. Special occupations determine that special professionals must have some special requirements for themselves. We have special requirements for people wearing police uniforms, have special requirements for people wearing military uniforms, and have special requirements for celebrities and teachers. If the writer admits that these special requirements are right, why should you not have these requirements for himself? I think the first of these requirements is to put myself down in modern human society.

This is not just a wise posture, but also to think seriously, it is not that important. I even think that although I have written so many words, is it really so important to society? Furthermore, all these works have not produced it. For the content of Chinese literature itself, it does not constitute any loss from ancient times to the present, and it does not constitute any losses for readers. Of course, you provided the work in a period, and some readers read it. It can be regarded as serving the people. From this perspective, I think the importance of the writer to others is sometimes not as practical as a good film policeman, and it is not as practical as a good doctor.

"Last one" reflects hero worship complex

Reading+: Not long ago, you have predicted that you are writing the last novel of the last minister. Can you spark this "last one" with us? Especially novel, or what?

Liang Xiaosheng: "The last one" is indeed the last one. I have a very strong wish, put down my pen, no longer writing, and no longer want to literature, and I no longer maintain an excessive relationship with the literary world, including the publishing industry, and then I can go to various beautiful villages to walk away , Take a look.

The "last one" has a longer historical span. From the 1930s to the early 1990s, the four generations were written. The reason why I want to write this is because of a very thick book, almost a thousand pages. It is the "Harbin Chronicle" edited by Harbin, Harbin, my mother's city. Always write. When I watched it, when I saw that we lost the three Eastern provinces in 1931, when the "pseudo -Manchuria" appeared, it had an impact on me. This impact is that the activities of our Northeast Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Anti -Japanese Scholars suddenly had a closer. Then I thought, I never wrote something for such respectable characters. I wrote a anti -Japanese character in my "Rebirth", but it was fictional.

Because I had this impulse, I read a lot of information, that is, deciding that the "last one" began to write from that time.Because I have this hero worship complex.Now, there will be a kind of movement to watch the documentary -at that time, our Chinese army, our anti -Japanese scholars, and the sacrifice for the country and the nation.But I have not written this, so this "last one" is a complex for myself.(Yangjiang Daily reporter Li Yan)

【Edit: Zhang Jing】

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