Interview with Sino -British Trade Ice Rubbing Stephen: Decompression of trade against China will damage British own interests 丨 Fengyun dialogue

Author:Phoenix Television Time:2022.09.22

2022 is the 50th anniversary of the establishment of Ambassador -level diplomatic relations between China and Britain. For half a century, the "ice -breaking spirit" seems to have always been contained in the development of Sino -British relations: Britain is the first to recognize New China in the West, the first trade with China, and the first to apply to join the AIIB The country is also the first Western country to establish a "comprehensive strategic partnership" with China. Sino -British relations have always focused on the forefront of Chinese and Western relations.

In this issue of "Fengyun Dialogue" interviewed Stephen Perry, the winner of the "48 Group Clubs" in the UK and the winner of the China Reform Friendship Medal.

The relationship between the Perry family and China

In 1953, Jack Perry, then chairman of London Export Corporation, led a group of British business community to overcome difficulties and break the Western blockade of "strong ice" in China. Bridge of Sino -British trade.

This group of people of insight is known as the first generation of "ice -breaking people" of Sino -British relations. In the second year, 48 British companies, which were determined to carry out trade with China, founded the "48 British Trade Groups", which was the predecessor of "48 Group Clubs".

On December 18, 2018, the 40th anniversary of the Chinese reform and opening up was grandly held in the Great Hall of the People in Beijing. To thank the international community for their support and help in China's reform and opening up, the Party Central Committee and the State Council awarded 10 international friends including Stephen Perry China Reform Friendship Medal. Stephen Perry has become the only British who has won the Chinese Reform Friendship Medal with "the inheritor of China -British Friendship and the Promotion of the Humanities Exchange of Sino -British Economic and Trade."

48 British clubs not only broke the ice of Sino -British trade in the early 50s, but also committed to helping foreign companies understand China in the early days of China's reform and opening up. Stephen and 48 group clubs together made it for China. contribute.

Stephen Perry:

"In 1987, the Ministry of Foreign Economic and Trade of China abandoned the monopoly rights of foreign trade companies, and all Chinese people started to do foreign trade business for a while. After that, we started to put more energy on the direction of China and its development, so that we can Help large companies plan their investment path in China. We have spent a lot of time helping foreign companies. I spent a lot of time to help American companies. I am one of the people who do business between the United States and China. I have a lot of time to stay In the United States, just like I stay in the UK a lot of time. So we have come all the way to today. From 1953 to today, we witnessed the history of China. "

Stephen's father, Jack Perry, met Dr. Jiding, then the Secretary -General of the China International Trade Promotion Commission under the introduction of the progressive progress of the Cold War. He also participated in the international economic conference held in Moscow in 1952 under his suggestion. They talked about many Chinese policies, especially Premier Zhou Enlai's ideas on strengthening China -British trade. The fate of Lao Perry and China began in that accident, and the "ice -breaking journey" in 1953 was also promoted.

Many years later, Lao Peili wrote in a letter to Ji Chaoding: "I have two wishes in my life, one is to break the blockade of China, and the other is to promote the development of Britain and China. My family, I love China. "

Stephen Perry:

"My father is brave, so he was selected by China as the position. He was ready to resist the rude people. But in the first 10 or 15 years of the beginning, people really think he is a bit strange. How could he go? This place is called China. After all, everyone knows nothing about this country. But slowly, people are more and more curious. I want to know why he did this and found there. Even the Prime Minister welcomed him . Edward Hee Si was very willing to hear his views on China. So he changed from a poor man from a poor area in London to China.

Stephen: Now Britain must participate in the rapid development of East Asia

In 1972, Stephen, who was still in college, came to China for the first time with his father. In the same year, President Nixon's visit to China, Stephen and his father, promoted the first batch of commodity trade between China and the United States, and became the earliest Westerners to promote the trade between China and the United States.

Since then, Stephen has lived in the United States twice, traveling to and from the United States hundreds of times, reaching a US $ billions of US dollars in Sino -US trade. So in his opinion, what is the difference between American businessmen's understanding of China and British businessmen?

In this regard, Stephen said that in the early days, the connection between the United States and China was completely cut off, which caused Americans to know nothing about China; now, the American business community attaches more importance to the Chinese market and has improved its understanding of China.

Stephen Perry:

"Americans have a deeper understanding of China, but they have also encountered setbacks. The British business community has less frustration and more patient. The strength is finance. Many Chinese people come to London to learn our financial ability. To become a global British, we must establish a good and intimate relationship with China, even if we have some concerns. We must solve these concerns, and East Asia, East Asia, and East Asia The area is now developing rapidly, and we must participate in it. "

Stephen: The Greater Bay Area is one of the four Chinese regions that shape the world's future development

When Perry and his son came to China, Hong Kong was a must -have transit station for their journey. Perry has deep feelings for Hong Kong. On July 1, 1997, Perry was invited to attend the transfer ceremony of the Hong Kong regime and witnessed the return of Hong Kong. Recalling the scene when the return of Hong Kong, Perry said:

"When watching the transfer ceremony of the return of Hong Kong, it rained, and it was very interesting to this experience, because in the country where I lived for a lifetime, Shakespeare will use the weather to set off the atmosphere of the story. People want to know that the rain is the rain. If you want to extinguish our spirit, it still means let us say goodbye to the old era and greet the new era with the sun that rose the next day. It is interesting to see the banner down, and the other banner rises. The feeling of finally successfully returned in Hong Kong. The ceremony was quite fast and the banner rose rapidly. So people quickly adjusted their emotions and set off again. After that, it was a firework performance. It was very interesting to experience the historical moment. "

After the return of Hong Kong, the continuous prosperity of Hong Kong impressed Perry. Perry referred to himself the "Ambassador of the Greater Bay Area". He said that the Guangdong -Hong Kong -Macao Greater Bay Area is an innovation of China. Compared with other city agglomerations in the Global Bay Area, it has its unique development advantage. The economy brings unlimited development opportunities.

Stephen Perry:

"Regardless of Hong Kong, the Greater Bay Area is one of the four Chinese regions that shape the world's future development. I think that these areas developed are much more significant than people are aware of it. Like the Greater Bay Area, the Yangtze River Delta, and The integration of Chongqing and Chengdu, Beijing, agriculture and industry, projects such as artificial intelligence will create a new area beyond everyone's imagination. People who can see when they look at the Greater Bay Area in 2049. It has developed so well. But don't forget that in 1978, people also said that China could not achieve modernization. Its agricultural population was too much and it would never be possible to transform. "

The 50th anniversary of Sino -British relations: accusing China of China and cutting off trade with China.

On September 5, Britain ushered in the third female Prime Minister Leeds Trams in history. The 47 -year -old Tras has long served in the British government for a long time and has served as the Minister of Justice and the Minister of International Trade. Starting in September 2021, Tras has been a foreign minister in Johnson Cabinet. How will Tras adjust the British strategy to China after taking over the Prime Minister? Also as a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council and a country with important influence, where will the future of Sino -British relations go?

In this regard, Stephen expressed his views:

"At present, the British attitude towards China is a bit like the United States. Some British are not optimistic about China and believe that China has developed too fast and too strong, which has threatened the western economy and Western civilization. This view is too simple. The world will be again again Separation. The market and economy of some countries are developing rapidly. We have to think about how to cooperate since we live in the same world. After gradually understanding this, people will realize that those who are not optimistic about China and believe that they can criticize accusations and accusations of accusations and accusations. China, which can be cut off in China, is not feasible. It will only be ourselves damaged. "

2022 is the 50th anniversary of the establishment of Ambassador -level diplomatic relations between China and Britain. Over the past half a century, it is because of the hard work of countless friendly people between the two countries that Sino -British relations can continue to develop. At this time node of the 50th anniversary, what kind of reflection and message does Stephen Perry reflect on the current Sino -British relations?

Stephen Perry:

"It is necessary to put Sino -British establishment diplomatic relations in the background of the West and China relations. The relationship between East and West is not a simple and stable relationship. It is constantly changing, and it is good. The relationship with Asia and the West has improved, mainly because the trade volume has increased significantly, and there are some investment. The establishment of the Ambassador -level relationship in Britain and China has prompted the trade and investment of the two countries to increase at a faster rate because the two countries are because the two countries are two countries. After distributing the mutual ambassador, there will be more attention to culture, sports, and folk exchanges. I want to say that in the past 50 years, these areas have made great progress. It is a bit difficult. But I think we have greatly improved our understanding of China after the ambassadors of the two countries. Now we must restore the comfortable relationship we have worked hard in the past 20 or 30 years. "

Stephen: For half a century, China's changes have been incredible

Fifty years ago, Stephen Perry came to China with his father and started his journey of discovery of another civilization. Since then, Stephen has witnessed the huge changes in China for 50 years.

Stephen said, "My mission is to let the West understand China and the way Chinese people do things. In 1978, I did not expect that China would transform from agriculture to industry. In the end, China allowed 800 million poverty to get rid of poverty and build the world's largest world export country."

Speaking of changes in China in the past 50 years, Stephen described "shocking."

Stephen Perry:

"The changes I see are unimaginable. In the past, 85%of China's population was farmers, and now there are manufacturing and service industries. This change is incredible.It can be unbelievable to take the high -speed rail from Beijing to Shanghai, let alone take the high -speed rail. The changes in China are incredible. The Chinese people live a very beautiful natural life. Look at the Chinese students I have encountered today.Ability, such insight, so hard. "September 22nd 20:30

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